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		<title>Isn&#8217;t it About&#8230;Time?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 06:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[O joyous day, Brethern and Sistern! His Holiness Brother Greg West feels impressed to speak to you. Yea, impressed by the Holy SpiritTM, even. Gather up your smelling salts, pull up the swooning chaise, ransack the jewelry box for your clutching-pearls, and get ready for a great big case o&#8217; the vapors: I was surfing [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=tbnu.wordpress.com&amp;blog=9926823&amp;post=66&amp;subd=tbnu&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O joyous day, Brethern and Sistern! <a href="http://spamlds.ning.com/profile/GregoryWest">His Holiness Brother Greg West</a> feels <a href="http://spamlds.ning.com/profiles/blogs/to-the-wives-and-children-of">impressed to speak to you</a>. Yea, impressed by the Holy Spirit<sup>TM</sup>, even. Gather up your smelling salts, pull up the swooning chaise, ransack the jewelry box for your clutching-pearls, and get ready for a great big case o&#8217; the vapors:</p>
<blockquote><p>I was surfing around today and stumbled upon the web site of an exMormon from Canada. He claims to have been a lifelong member of the Church, served a mission, and was a bishop at age 35 or so. I have no reason to doubt his story, but I&#8217;m always wary of how these guys tend to inflate their importance. As I read some of his story, I was struck how his tale is just the same old song I&#8217;ve heard a zillion times. It amazes me that, for all the demands that they have their story heard, it&#8217;s always the same old story.</p></blockquote>
<p>I have no reason to doubt his story, but I doubt it anyway! Witness how he inflates himself to God-like proportions by asserting that he served as both a missionary AND a bishop! His pretensions to grandeur know no bounds! And imagine the brazen audacity necessary to desire that others hear his story! Such arrogance! Let us continue!</p>
<blockquote><p>Universities seem to be the place where the proud begin to succumb to the temptation to be smarter than everyone else. I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s competitiveness so much as it is the desire to be accepted by those one looks up to. I&#8217;ve heard many times of a LDS member who was humiliated because all he could do was bear a simple testimony in the face of a direct intellectual assault on his faith by an esteemed professor. Determined to never be humiliated again, his pride sets him off on a quest to know more than anyone else.</p></blockquote>
<p>Translation:</p>
<blockquote><p>Universities seem to be the place where <span style="text-decoration:line-through;">the proud</span> <strong>those who are eager to learn </strong>begin to <span style="text-decoration:line-through;">succumb to the temptation to be smarter than everyone else</span> <strong>learn</strong>. I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s competitiveness so much as it is the desire to <span style="text-decoration:line-through;">be accepted by those one looks up to</span> <strong>learn</strong>. I&#8217;ve heard many times of a LDS member who was humiliated because all he could do was <span style="text-decoration:line-through;">bear a simple testimony</span> <strong>appeal to his own emotions </strong>in the face of <span style="text-decoration:line-through;">a direct intellectual assault on his faith</span> <strong>actual evidence</strong> by <span style="text-decoration:line-through;">an esteemed professor</span> <strong>someone possessing even the most rudimentary of critical thinking skills</strong>. Determined to never be humiliated again, his <span style="text-decoration:line-through;">pride</span> <strong>desire to learn the truth</strong> sets him off on a quest to <span style="text-decoration:line-through;">know more than anyone else</span> <strong>learn something. Anything. At all</strong>.</p></blockquote>
<p>Fixed! Next:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;the gospel is intentionally designed to not be &#8220;provable&#8221; by man&#8217;s sciences.</p></blockquote>
<p>Translation:</p>
<blockquote><p>Jesus was sitting around one day, trying to make up a religion. He thought &#8220;If I provide proper evidence for Mormonism, then <em>everyone</em> will believe in it, and then who exactly will I send to these Terrestrial and Telestial Kingdoms? I put a lot of fucking God-hours into these things  and I&#8217;ll be Me-damned if they&#8217;re going to go to waste!</p>
<p>&#8220;I have an idea! I&#8217;ll make sure that tangible evidence for Mormonism is so difficult to find that no one in their right mind will believe in it, and those Kingdoms will fill up faster than a paper sacrament cup in a hurricane!&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Sure, Jesus <em>could</em> save everyone. But,  like <a href="http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0003832/">Syndrome</a> once said:  &#8220;When everyone is special, no one is.&#8221; Why not create billions of offspring, claim to love each and every one enough to die for them, and then exclude as many of them as you can  for not finding the  invisible plastic eggs  in your cosmic Easter egg hunt.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s even more:</p>
<blockquote><p>There is real power in faith. Evidence doesn&#8217;t have that transformative essence.</p></blockquote>
<p>Translation:</p>
<blockquote><p>There is real power in faith<strong>, provided it&#8217;s faith in the religion I already believe to be true &#8211; faith in any of the other thousands of religions is BAD</strong>. Evidence <span style="text-decoration:line-through;">doesn&#8217;t have that transformative essence</span> <strong>isn&#8217;t favorable to the myriad unsupportable assertions that comprise my belief system, so I have no qualms about rejecting it. I do however reserve the right to change my position and accept evidence should any  in support of my belief system miraculously materialize somewhere.</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>Fixed.<strong> </strong>Again. More:</p>
<blockquote><p>The brother about whom I write apparently wrote to Elder Holland of the Twelve and didn&#8217;t get a satisfactory reply. His next step was to write an open letter on the Internet to Elder Holland. Still not receiving a reply that satisfied him, he wrote again&#8211;this time an 80-page rant&#8211;wherein he listed all his grievances, his critiques, his unanswered questions, and posted it as a PDF file.</p></blockquote>
<p>A PDF file?! On the INTERNET?! Why not just FAX the letter to SATAN himself! Everyone knows PDF is the Devil&#8217;s Format!</p>
<p>Still more:</p>
<blockquote><p>As I perused the document, I was stunned to see that almost every single page of it contained a &#8220;carbon copy&#8221; of every other anti-Mormon&#8217;s rants. It had obviously been a long time since this brother had read the Book of Mormon with any regularity, but it was apparent that he had studied every single anti-Mormon treatise available. It was like a catalog, every page plagiarized, cut-and-pasted from anti-Mormon books and web sites.</p></blockquote>
<p>He used arguments that were presented elsewhere! No solid case can ever be built upon  precedence! &#8216;Tis madness! And just because Joseph Smith plagiarized large chunks of the Book of Mormon from the King James Bible doesn&#8217;t mean that some filthy <em>exMormon</em> is allowed to do the same! Joseph Smith was a <em>prophet</em>. God <em>told</em> him to plagiarize those passages. And He even made sure that Joseph Smith repeated the errors made by the King James scribes, just to test our faith!</p>
<p>We finally approach the end:</p>
<blockquote><p>If you are a woman who has a husband that is placing you in this situation, for the sake of your own salvation and that of your children, it is better to cut the apostate husband loose. As tragic as it may be, it would be more tragic for him to pull you and your children down to hell with him. If he insisted that you and your children remain inside a house that is burning down, would you stay or would you flee for your life and take your children with you?</p></blockquote>
<p>Remember, Sistern &#8211; when you were married for Time and All Eternity<sup>TM</sup> you didn&#8217;t just marry your husband. You married God, too. And God will not be cock-blocked. So kick your filthy freethinking apostate scoundrel husband to outer curbness! He will soon drink the dregs of the bitter cup of divorce! And God shall hold you tight unto his bosom, yea, even tight like unto a dish. For a dish thou art. Verily,  God totes thinks you are teh hawtness.</p>
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		<title>The &#8216;H&#8217; Stands for &#8216;Hamburglar&#8217;</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 05:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dallin H. Oaks today spoke before the student body of The Lord&#8217;s University, Idaho. The transcript was then posted to the website of The Lord&#8217;s Newsroom. The juxtaposition of DHO&#8217;s opening paragraph with the Newsroom sub-heading make for a funny bit of fail: Um, don&#8217;t post it on the fucking Internet then, mmkay? And if [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=tbnu.wordpress.com&amp;blog=9926823&amp;post=9&amp;subd=tbnu&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng/news-releases-stories/religious-freedom">Dallin H. Oaks</a> today spoke before the student body of The Lord&#8217;s University, Idaho. The transcript was then posted to the website of The Lord&#8217;s Newsroom. The juxtaposition of DHO&#8217;s opening paragraph with the Newsroom sub-heading make for a funny bit of fail:</p>
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<p>Um, don&#8217;t post it on the fucking Internet then, mmkay? And if you are a Prophet, Seer, and Revelator in  Apostleship to The Lord&#8217;s One True Church on Earth, and are speaking words handed down on high from Jesus H. Christ (with whom you share your middle initial, for His sake!), shouldn&#8217;t you want your words to reach as many people as possible?</p>
<p>Or are you embarrassed by what you are about to say, and want to make it clear that your imminent preaching really is only for the choir?</p>
<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s what I thought.</p>
<p>Anyhoo, DHO goes on to say a bunch of stuff, some of it pretty reasonable and with which I can agree. He discusses the importance of religious freedom, the important role of the Constitution and Constitutional Amendments with regard to guaranteeing religious freedom, etc. That&#8217;s all fine and dandy.</p>
<p>But then, the stoopid:</p>
<blockquote><p>Surely the First             Amendment guarantee of free exercise of <em>religion</em> was             intended to grant more freedom to religious action than to             other kinds of action. Treating actions based on religious             belief the same as actions based on other systems of belief             should not be enough to satisfy the special place of             religion in the United States Constitution.</p></blockquote>
<p>The fuck? The argument that actions based on religious belief  be treated differently than any other action sounds an awful lot like <a href="http://www.fallacyfiles.org/specplea.html">special pleading</a> to me.</p>
<p>Then, even more stoopid:</p>
<blockquote><p>Atheism has             always been hostile to religion, such as in its arguments             that freedom <em>of</em> or <em>for</em> religion should include             freedom <em>from</em> religion.</p></blockquote>
<p>As random Internet commenter <em>tsg</em> eloquently <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2009/08/witch_hunt_in_illinois.php#comment-1865953">explains</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>There is no freedom of religion without freedom from religion: you can&#8217;t be free to practice your religion unless you are free from practicing mine.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well-said, random Internet commenter <em>tsg</em>.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s some more nonsense and whining until  we register a sudden and massive spike in the StoopidMeter, requiring the inevitable invocation of tbnu&#8217;s patented red pen of illumination:</p>
<blockquote><p>A second threat             to religious freedom is from those who perceive it to be in             conflict with the newly alleged “civil right” of <span style="text-decoration:line-through;">same-gender             couples</span> <strong>slaves </strong>to enjoy the privileges of <span style="text-decoration:line-through;">marriage</span> <strong>freedom</strong>.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>The real issue in             the Proposition 8 debate — an issue that will not go away in             years to come and for whose resolution it is critical that             we protect everyone’s freedom of speech and the equally             important freedom to stand for religious beliefs — is             whether the opponents of Proposition 8 should be allowed to             change the vital institution of <span style="text-decoration:line-through;">marriage</span> <strong>slavery</strong> itself.</p>
<p>The <span style="text-decoration:line-through;">marriage             union of a man and a woman</span> <strong>principle of owning people </strong>has been the teaching of the             Judeo-Christian scriptures and the core legal definition and             practice of <span style="text-decoration:line-through;">marriage</span> <strong>slavery</strong> in Western culture for thousands of             years. Those who seek to change the foundation of <span style="text-decoration:line-through;">marriage</span> <strong>slavery </strong>should not be allowed to pretend that those who defend the             ancient order are trampling on civil rights. The supporters             of Proposition 8 were exercising their constitutional right             to defend the institution of <span style="text-decoration:line-through;">marriage</span> <strong>slavery </strong>— an institution of             transcendent importance that they, along with countless             others of many persuasions, feel conscientiously obliged to             protect.</p></blockquote>
<p>Fixed that for you, DHO.</p>
<p>Now, for something completely different. Just kidding, it&#8217;s a bunch more stoopidity:</p>
<blockquote><p>We             must insist on our constitutional right and duty to exercise             our religion, to vote our consciences on public issues and             to participate in elections and debates in the public square             and the halls of justice. These are the rights of all             citizens and they are also the rights of religious leaders.             While our church rarely speaks on public issues, it does so             by exception on what the First Presidency defines as             significant moral issues, which could surely include laws             affecting the fundamental legal/cultural/moral environment             of our communities and nations.</p>
<p>We must also             insist on this companion condition of democratic government:             when churches and their members or any other group act or             speak out on public issues, win or lose, they have a right             to expect freedom from retaliation.</p></blockquote>
<p>Shorter DHO: we should be able to do whatever the fuck we want without any repercussions whatsoever.</p>
<p>DHO goes out with a bang. A loud, wet, spurting climax of weapons-grade stoopid:</p>
<blockquote><p>Religious values             and political realities are so interlinked in the origin and             perpetuation of this nation that we cannot lose the             influence of Christianity in the public square without             seriously jeopardizing our freedoms. I maintain that this is             a political fact, well qualified for argument in the public             square by religious people whose freedom to believe and act             must always be protected by what is properly called our             “First Freedom,” the free exercise of religion.</p></blockquote>
<p>DHO is a tall frosty  glass of stupid juice. I maintain that this is a political fact.</p>
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